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Post by Roland Hite on Jan 5, 2015 20:43:27 GMT
Post technique beforehand to private forum? Helps keep things moving? Attacker posts first is also a good way of balancing things.
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Post by Symon Kytley on Jan 6, 2015 6:14:29 GMT
I think challenger first is a strong idea (though not generalizable to the more traditional joust format, so we might need to revisit this later, too). If a different type of initiative roll is desired, it can be rolled at the same time as the status roll for simplicity (i.e. use the same init for the entire joust). I definitely think that the chosen maneuver should be in the description of the Orokos attack roll (and of course reflected in the roll itself if appropriate). I don't like the idea of posting in a private forum (best to keep it all in one place).
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Post by Stranger on Jan 7, 2015 2:03:24 GMT
I agree, Symon, the maneuver/technique should be in the description of the Orokos roll.
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Post by Stranger on Jan 7, 2015 2:16:02 GMT
We'll just go with the challenger posts their rolls and technique first in this format so as to go ahead and get the ball rolling. Three days in and I only see a few of the knight PCs rolling their Status tests. Let's get this off the ground or we'll likely end up with another day like Day 2.
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Post by Walton Dulver on Jan 7, 2015 8:16:46 GMT
i asked abouth that on shoutbox, but maybe Narrator didn't see that "I'm planning to participate in joust. so there is chance that i will lose and i don't have money for ransom. and no one would have funds for that from character's purse, as it's half plate (2000ss=nearly 10gd...). how does it work then? or we will have to cash-in 1 wealth from House? For me for example, I'm heir of Lordship, so it calls tomind that it should be natural thing, but what rules/house rules say about that?"
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Post by Ayleth Bartheld on Jan 7, 2015 8:34:29 GMT
Depends on lord Harald`s dispositions I guess. Seeing that this is inspired by SA, and most characters riding for the glory of their respective houses had access to "ransom funds".
Besides that, long as your animal handling is good enough to stay in saddle and your fighting is good enough to break all lances (opponents passive ride -5), you need not worry about ransom.
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Post by Warrior on Jan 13, 2015 12:42:32 GMT
Assuming anointed has to be used at maneuver step, as we did in SA, as it is a free action not a destiny style interrupt.
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Post by Crone on Jan 13, 2015 14:40:21 GMT
Agreed, warrior. Same thing for anything else that must be declared before the roll (yours or your opponent's) such as fatigue to ignore injury/wound penalties.
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Post by Crone on Jan 13, 2015 14:58:22 GMT
Please everyone read and comment on this rules discussion thread regarding the Tourney Knight benefit. Until this is resolved we are stalled on the joust, so time is of the essence.
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Post by Ayleth Bartheld on Jan 13, 2015 15:25:58 GMT
I would like to see the dice rolls for NPC's.
Additionally, the way I read the jousting event rules (and I do believe I wrote them, as it happens), three broken lances is a tie, which means Brom wins a point of glory, but Osmund remains champion.
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Post by Warrior on Jan 13, 2015 15:38:59 GMT
Thanks Ayleth! Just sorting out broken lances issue, as rules say "based on degrees of success" and Brom had more. A miss get you a broken lance, so i lean toward DoS, but open to debate. In that case a cagey Osmund might have gone defensive for last joust (briefly had flavour on this strategy, but edited when I switched to DoS)! Will sort this out. If necessary I'll retcon. On rolls - as posted previously, mine are on Roland's orokos/just use the campaign name. Not sure what policy will be - I just left them off as I'm on tablet, hard to paste! edit: Ayleth, i see how having poated rolls/stats would make the DoS issue clearer, good point to consider here.
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Post by Warrior on Jan 13, 2015 16:20:52 GMT
Right, for clarity, break ties with (top first):
- lances broken - DoS - champion stays on!
Thanks to Stranger for helping out on ruling and to Ayleth for spotting it.
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Post by Ayleth Bartheld on Jan 13, 2015 17:11:01 GMT
Well, that is not much different from how it's decided in the knock-out format. And it does IMO smash the odds of a starting champion remaining champion (unless he is clearly better than the challengers). If a champion is roughly equal to his four challengers, then odds are that at least one of them gets more DoS. Plus, what of four challengers each using DP? Can a champion counter that? And I imagine Lord Harte would have an interest in stacking the odds in favor of the champions, including his son.
That would be why the challenge nets you glory for breaking all lances, and no ransom is demanded upon a draw, seeing that Lord Harte would award the victory to the champion. At least in accordance with how I designed my suggestion. DoS is usually what the book suggest should be used to determine who gets awarded the victory by the tourney master.
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Post by Father on Jan 13, 2015 17:36:55 GMT
Personally, I lean towards any system that hides the numbers and simply reports the results to players.
I'd actually prefer it if NCs stats were as hidden as possible, just to avoid people doing the math rather than playing their characters. For the sake of immersion, I'd be against any system that included DOS's.
When I've played SIFRP with friends, an NC would announce the winner of each bout, leading to a whole new layer of intrigue and roleplay. Knights (or less-scrupulous house members) would bribe judges in less trustworthy houses to influence the outcome, or bannerlords would be favored when the decisions were close (or sometimes not close at all). Over the course of a long campaign, at least one skirmish could be marked up to a disagreement between the players and the judging in a tournament. It was great fun. I'd love to see it emulated here, as this time houses on both sides would be populated by pcs!
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Post by Ayleth Bartheld on Jan 13, 2015 19:02:11 GMT
Well, PC's could be equally well suited as the tourney master to see who the better jouster is, though. Which would yield plenty juicy information. If Ser Lance nets a total of 9 successes while Ser Sword gets 3, and the latter wins, then clearly, the judge has some reason to favor him.
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