Marksmanship in Melee

Tanis Snow
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Marksmanship in Melee Jan 5, 2015 17:22:53 GMT via mobile

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Post by Tanis Snow on Jan 5, 2015 17:22:53 GMT

A lot of it depends on scenario. But if want to apply realism, by both historic and modern testing, the penetration power of arrows depended heavily on range and even Bodkin arrows couldn't usually get more than a third of an inch through plate if I remember correctly.

Also from personal experience as an SCA and Dagorhir combat archer, I have no problems defending/dodging melee attacker's swings nor with aiming since it takes practically none while they are right on me. Unless they have a shield I almost always land a chest shot. The hard part is knocking you're arrow while trying not to get hit and if you knock wrong it could mess up the shot. I know in reality I don't have a 4 agility or marksmanship so if I can still manage to knock and shoot with a guy trying to hit me with his Axe my fantasy character should be able to.

Lol besides, realism is somewhat, of course not completely, abstract in a world with dragons, Giants, dire wolves, wargs, etc

. It is also just a game where you can't exactly imitate everything from real world physics lol

. Ultimately I'm ok with whatever the Narrator decides, I've given my opinion

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Walton Dulver House Dulver Posts: 117	Marksmanship in Melee Jan 5, 2015 17:24:53 GMT Quote Select Post Deselect Post Link to Post Member Give Gift Back to Top Post by Walton Dulver on Jan 5, 2015 17:24:53 GMT www.youtube.com/watch?v=D3997HZuWjk double shot thing is extremely interesting in melee case only xD
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Mather Warrens
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Marksmanship in Melee Jan 6, 2015 2:21:49 GMT

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Post by Mather Warrens on Jan 6, 2015 2:21:49 GMT

A couple of points for my character:

A) I did not make the character.
B) The art of combat for me would be:
Lesser Action: Move 5yds (fast benefit)
Lesser Action: Standard Attack

The issue would be getting initiative and keeping ahead of the other fighter. If I get caught, then I get dead.

I understand the gravity of the situation from a pure melee stand point, but I understand the severity of a Marksman caught in melee as well. We each have our forte' but neither wants to be caught with the short stick.

I don't care which direction the decision goes, I will still have to role play to survive. Just like in an intrigue... just write my character off.

Last Edit: Jan 6, 2015 2:28:04 GMT by Mather Warrens

Harwyn Storm
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Marksmanship in Melee Jan 10, 2015 22:35:25 GMT

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Post by Harwyn Storm on Jan 10, 2015 22:35:25 GMT

Hm, i would definitely agree with the -1D penalty if engaged. However, banning the use of bow and arrow does not seem like a sound thing to do - 5D means the person in question in very very skilled at the ability in question. For example, he could maneuver a bit and fire an arrow in the opponents leg, or neck or whatever. That arrow is bound to leave a mark. It it less likely to do much damage than if the foe is a bit further away but it is still possible. And banning a thing that is possible to do does not seem like a smart thing.

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Stranger Administrator Raising Balerion the Dread from the dead... Posts: 1,159	Marksmanship in Melee Jan 11, 2015 22:09:53 GMT Quote Select Post Deselect Post Link to Post Member Give Gift Back to Top Post by Stranger on Jan 11, 2015 22:09:53 GMT Ok, I'm going to make a ruling here finally. We're going to impose a -1D penalty on ALL Marksmanship tests while engaged by someone in melee (this includes crossbows and thrown weapons).

Stranger Administrator Raising Balerion the Dread from the dead... Posts: 1,159	Marksmanship in Melee Jan 23, 2015 22:37:36 GMT Rykk Grymes and Harwyn Storm like this Quote Select Post Deselect Post Link to Post Member Give Gift Back to Top Post by Stranger on Jan 23, 2015 22:37:36 GMT Minor thread necromancy but seemed an appropriate place to put this www.youtube.com/watch?v=BEG-ly9tQGk

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Harwyn Storm: Would you be interested in taking the GM mantle Warrior, in case Stranger decides not to narrate anymore? Maybe we should open up a thread and discuss these possibilities? Feb 23, 2015 10:53:08 GMT *

Ingraham Hoyle: Oh wait. So, about that: I'm sorry, that was Hilda. Stranger's absence was explained by something-something business trip and a little thingy after that. Sorry. Whatever it is holding him up, it must be work-related. Feb 23, 2015 11:58:31 GMT

Ingraham Hoyle: or part of the "reasons I'd rather not go into" near the beginning of that post. Feb 23, 2015 11:58:59 GMT

Warrior: If necessary, probably, but I'd need stranger to upgrade my account to full admin powers, or we can use the same characters for a forum game I set up but did not start last year. Can wait and see until 8th March, I'm abroad at the moment. Feb 23, 2015 12:16:42 GMT

Ayleth Bartheld: If we're doing fresh start, I'd advocate fresh characters also. And probably some adjustments based on lessons learned. Feb 23, 2015 16:35:41 GMT

Harwyn Storm: Why a fresh start? Feb 25, 2015 20:56:09 GMT

Harwyn Storm: I would just continue this story, as I like it a lot so far. Surely whoever does the narrating will let you draw up a new character if you are unhappy with this one. Feb 25, 2015 20:57:05 GMT

Ayleth Bartheld: I'd consider anything not being a direct continuation of this as a "fresh start", seems to me that moving over to a new forum game would be some form of re-start. Feb 26, 2015 19:01:17 GMT

Ingraham Hoyle: alright, this is starting to make me sad. Mar 11, 2015 6:05:07 GMT

Damon Nettles: Why so sad? Your character survived! How many of Martin's characters can claim such distinction?!

Mar 11, 2015 15:32:31 GMT

Damon Nettles: On a more serious note, if anyone is actually going to start another game, send me a PM if you think my playing style would be a good fit. Even though this game died a premature death, I think the format has potential. Mar 11, 2015 15:34:06 GMT

Symon Kytley: Same! I would love to give this another try (perhaps on a somewhat smaller scale or with a more robust admin/Narrator structure). I probably won't be checking back in here much (if at all) but I'll get a PM via email. Mar 11, 2015 22:01:20 GMT

Ayleth Bartheld: While I'm toying, I can only come up with ideas (And I do have a couple of grand ones). Actually narrating is far beyond my capacity. Mar 12, 2015 8:01:03 GMT

Ayleth Bartheld: bitw.boards.net/thread/515/new-game Mar 12, 2015 9:18:04 GMT

Warrior: I've got an old forum game written up but not started. It's on a different style of board to this one and I prefer this style. This weekend I'll move it over to this superior style and post a link.

It's set just before the historic Blacks v Greens period Mar 13, 2015 7:22:11 GMT

Warrior: Link to my attempt at a forum game set just before the original Dragon's Dance... dragonsdance.forumatic.com/index.php Mar 14, 2015 21:32:25 GMT

Harwyn Storm: Excellent Warrior:) Should i send you some character ideas via pm on here or there? Mar 15, 2015 20:58:46 GMT

Warrior: Get over to the new forums Harwyn, register an account there.

Easier to do as much as possible there, but if people PM me on this site I'll look at it too, but preference is to have much as possible on the new site. Thanks for asking! Mar 15, 2015 21:01:34 GMT

Harwyn Storm: I am having a technical problem at dragonsdance, cant log on at all. Mar 18, 2015 3:46:59 GMT

Warrior: Glad to see you managed to post - I've done some research in to these issues and other users seem ok for now, various potential solution - contact me here or on the official green ronin forums if tech problems continue Mar 18, 2015 7:21:11 GMT

Marksmanship in Melee

Post by Tanis Snow on Jan 5, 2015 17:22:53 GMT

Post by Walton Dulver on Jan 5, 2015 17:24:53 GMT

Post by Mather Warrens on Jan 6, 2015 2:21:49 GMT

Post by Harwyn Storm on Jan 10, 2015 22:35:25 GMT

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