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Post by Damon Nettles on Dec 20, 2014 18:56:31 GMT
From the modified combat rules: Knockdown - Lesser Attack Does this mean that Knockdown counts as an attack, even though it doesn't do any damage? So, unless I spend a DP, I can never knock an opponent over and follow up with an attack in the same turn? Doesn't that make it rather pointless unless you're part of a fighting team?
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Post by Symon Kytley on Dec 20, 2014 18:59:39 GMT
I suspect it was a copy/paste error, not an intended rule change.
In general I'm ok with it being an attack, but it does greatly change the role of knockdown.
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Post by Luke Seldon on Dec 20, 2014 19:04:24 GMT
Actually... that sorta balances it out...
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Post by Stranger on Dec 20, 2014 19:05:56 GMT
I apologize lol! I meant it only to be a lesser action. I had typoed  . Meant Action not attack on both Cautious Attack and Knockdown |
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Post by Damon Nettles on Dec 20, 2014 19:10:19 GMT
OK, glad that's cleared up!
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Post by Symon Kytley on Dec 20, 2014 19:12:22 GMT
It sort of does balance it. On the other hand Damon is right that it becomes almost useless in 1v1 fights, and it is a staple there (consider the epic fight between Oberyn Martell and Gregor Clegane in the show). I say almost because you could still use it to make a heavily armored opponent waste time standing... but it does not seem to be all that useful, tactically speaking.
I have an unrelated combat rules question that I discovered while reading up for my Joust rules thread (forthcoming!):
According to pg. 58, It takes a lesser action to control a war trained beast in combat, or a greater action for a mount not trained for war. It is Automatic difficulty (0), so it is not hard to pass. The issue is that it is a lesser action. This would make mounted charges impossible without using fatigue/DP, which seems neither logical nor the intent. Perhaps this should be a free action for war-trained mounts and lesser otherwise? Perhaps with a difficulty increase to compensate? Perhaps increase to lesser/greater if the mount is wounded until it is calmed again?
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Post by Ayleth Bartheld on Dec 20, 2014 20:15:29 GMT
I believe there's GR ruling out on that one, that controlling the mount is considered part of the charge action.
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Post by Rykk Grymes on Dec 21, 2014 2:25:01 GMT
Well I'm still confused. Does cautious attack include the attack or that must be separate action.
Ex.
Lesser action: cautious attack -1d to attack, +3 to CD
Lesser action: standard attack
Or
Lesser action: cautious attack 4d6(-1d), + 3 to CD
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Post by Stranger on Dec 21, 2014 2:30:14 GMT
Lesser action: cautious attack 4d6(-1D), + 3 to CD  |
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. Meant Action not attack on both Cautious Attack and Knockdown
