Attractive Benefit

It does. Using r1 in orokos keeps rerolling until you get above 1.

Your blood of andals was very unlucky many times, think I flagged it in the shoutbox.

Maybe I'm misunderstanding some of the posts in the thread, but I've never read any of the "re-roll" benefits or drawbacks as meaning that you re-roll more than once. So if I roll a 1 on a benefit re-roll, then 1 is what I get. Conversely, if I roll a 6 on a drawback re-roll, then I get a 6 (hurray!). I just don't see it implied anywhere that you re-roll again and again until you have no ones or sixes.

In any case, I see no need to alter the way any of the benefits work. They're fine as written (can you guess how I voted? .

I suppose instead of something like "6d6k4r1" we could do something like "6d6k4;1d6;1d6" or "6d6k4;2d6" and have the rerolls already there if needed, just need to do the math. Not as convenient as the "r1", but better than having to fill in the entire form a second time.

Damon - a rerolled die in a persuasion check is still a die in a persuasion check and thus eligible for a reroll (assuming it meets the normal criteria). Nothing says you cannot reroll a reroll (that I am aware of, anyway).

EDIT: Ayleth your numbers are static but the extra benefit will scale non-linearly as the number of dice rolled increases. By my math if you roll 6 dice you have ~5.6% chance of getting three ones (and thus exceeding the reroll limit on Attractive with 4 persuasion). However, with 8 dice it jumps up to ~10.1% chance. Further, I am using the wrong formula, these percentages are for exactly 3 ones, but we really want the probability of 3 or more ones, so it is even higher. Also, this is ignoring the possibility of rerolling rerolls, which makes it even higher... I could work out the exact probabilities, but that is far more work than is worth it...

And nothing says you do. It's a matter of interpreting the language, and I favor the one that leads to the least disruption in play. Re-rolling ones and sixes until you have none left has the potential to drag on and on, and practical experience shows that it's a surprisingly common effect.

Or to put it another way, Attractive says: Whenever you roll a Persuasion test, you may re-roll a number of 1s equal to half your Persuasion rank (minimum one re-roll). If the intent was to allow unlimited re-rolls, it would have been a simple matter to say so. Just add a sentence saying: You may continue re-rolling until you have no more 1s. Similarly, it could have been made crystal clear that there's a limit on re-rolls by saying: You must take the result of the re-roll, even if it's another 1.

Since GR did neither, we must interpret the language, and to me the most straightforward and least disruptive interpretation is to always accept the result of the re-roll.

And that's your privilege. Enjoy.

If, for example, you have the ability to reroll two 1s and you roll one 1. You'd get to reroll that. If your reroll on that one 1 was also a 1, I can concede that you'd get to reroll that 1 again. Only because that is for the same test and you only initially rolled one 1. If on the second reroll you get yet another 1, then obviously you did something wrong in a past life and you'd have to keep that 1.

If you have to ability to reroll two 1s and you roll two 1s. You'd be able to reroll both of those 1s. If one or both of those 2 rerolls was a 1, then you're S.O.L. because it's part of the same test and you only have the ability to reroll two ones in one test.